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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.
what is going on everybody
welcome to sunday sunday
sunday night crossfit talk
I'm scott she's jamie and
in the green room ready to
pop in any second now is
carolyn there she is and
she's gone can you hear me we can okay
Like, is it clear or no?
Yeah, it's good.
Great.
So we're here live Sunday night.
I must do my weekly woe is
me because I'm a Bears fan
report as since Mike Ditka
was fired in nineteen ninety two,
the Bears are fifteen and
fifty one against their
arch rival Green Bay Packers.
Today, we had them on the ropes.
All we had to do is kick a
field goal at the end of the game to win,
and it got blocked.
It got blocked because the
Bears were just bearing.
That is what they do now.
They get my heart all ready for, like,
I had Ashley Kotler's text
ready to go to rub it in
her face and then thud.
Because if people don't know,
Ashley Kotler, Justin's wife,
is a big Green Bay Packers fan.
For the last three years, just randomly,
I get a text of like how
woeful the Bears are against the Packers.
Like how many quarterbacks
we've gone through when
they've gone through three.
Like how many coaches, how many,
like all these stats.
And I'll just wake up one
morning and they're waiting for me.
And I was ready for the
retaliation and nothing.
What a bummer.
And then the forty niners, Carolyn,
lost the same way ish.
I missed the game, but yes,
I see the score.
Gino Smith last second
touchdown to win the game.
Gino.
the seahawks beat the
foreigners but then we're
not all like jamie and lana
who have a team that scores
every time they touch the
ball points um against the
woeful jacksonville jaguars
yeah I mean I should
technically be a bills fan
with how close I am to the
to buffalo but I mean that
was a good game yeah that's
what I just finished
watching right that was an amazing game
I mean,
if the Niners aren't going to play
well this year,
maybe Lex could mute or not hear this,
but maybe I'll just go for
the Bills this year.
There you go.
Josh Allen on fourth and two,
running it all the way into
the end zone was... I
actually jumped out of my chair.
It was so cool.
I don't like undefeated
teams and total domination.
I like when it's mixed up a little bit.
So, yeah, that was pretty good.
Well...
Have your weeks been?
I had a good week.
We ended up going to Mount
Pleasant to the Soaring
Eagle Casino yesterday for
my niece's eighteenth birthday.
So took her in there and did
some gambling.
I had her behind.
She ended up like five
hundred or six hundred up.
Yeah, I lost like seventy bucks.
I think Aaron lost like a hundred, but.
Sorry,
do you have a cap when you play like
what's like?
Yeah, I took I took seventy.
That's what I was willing to play with.
And I had seventy for Aaron.
I think Aaron had some of his own money.
I was actually up.
I was up like, I don't know,
sixty at one point.
I just do slots.
We did a little bit of roulette.
So, yeah, that's fine.
Yeah, I go in with twenty, twenty five.
Like that's usually my cap,
but because I'm a cheapskate.
Yeah, I am, too.
I don't I don't love to bet money,
but it was fun.
It was a good night.
Kenneth Galap says ripping
some cigs and gambling all
the new eighteen year old privileges.
That's what we said.
So when we called her for
her birthday was actually Tuesday.
And when we called her, Aaron was like,
did you go buy some cigarettes?
And she's like,
you got to be twenty one now,
which I didn't even realize
apparently to be twenty one
to buy cigarettes.
OK.
Yeah.
Not that she would do it, but.
Carolyn, you got back from Scotland when?
I got back Monday at like
nine PM and I went like
right to bed to get used to
this time zone here.
I've been going to bed pretty early,
like every day of the week
around eight thirty nine.
But.
I felt like I went right back on track.
I was at school Tuesday morning,
and it felt like a regular work day.
I wasn't overly tired from the travel.
How was it going?
Because I'm good west, but going east,
I'm crushed every time.
I was good the first day.
It was almost the second day,
I was a little bit...
like the first day you're
almost like surviving and I
for me it catches up on the
second day I wanted to nap
and just kind of get out of
routine where I shouldn't
um but it was okay it
wasn't too bad I think for
me it was only five hours
for lex it was eight so it
would be more for her but
she was able to get right
on schedule right away
essentially so it was good yeah
why the doctor's appointment on Friday?
And I announced a couple of
weeks ago that I've weaned
myself off of insulin.
Um, when I had a fib, my,
my sugar was up to like, ten point six,
a one C and a couple months ago,
three months ago,
it was six point zero with the insulin,
but I've weaned myself off.
So they measured again and
now I'm at five point seven
without insulin.
Um, so the doctor is like ecstatic, um,
that it just keeps dropping
and dropping and dropping.
Um,
And so I'm super stoked.
That's been my, my big,
big news of the weekend.
Even a bear's loss can't
take away that joy.
What have you,
what have you changed like the most?
Like, is it like your diet?
Are you getting back in the
gym a little bit more?
Like what, what's making it go down?
so I'm I'm taking a
different approach at the
gym like if I if I feel
good I I do a metcon if I
don't feel good I do like
bodybuilding or a lifting
sesh just to kind of like
mentally be okay um and and
that's I think the bigger
piece is the stress like
I've just had to de-stress
a lot of things in my life
and get rid of a lot of the
my the things that were
stressing me out and um go
back to go back to therapy
go back to talking about
all the things um and
working through that and I
think that has been the
biggest the biggest thing
um and that has helped me
with an approach um and
with that like and I'm I am
taking a little bit
different approach with my eating um
And I kind of went back to
an old method when I first
was diagnosed as a diabetic.
I got off of everything.
Just eating when I'm hungry
and making sure that
whatever I'm eating is good
for my body and not bad for my body.
Do you like focus on protein like?
proteins, fruits and vegetables.
Really because of the diabetic piece,
I am reducing carbs down a
bit because I need to get
the sugars out of my blood system.
But when I do that,
then everything in my body
starts working correctly again.
So then like the weight loss
is faster and all that
other stuff starts happening.
so I just I had to like just
reset everything for myself
get get healthy again so
that um everything else
works and then I can attack
you know maybe attacking
the gym differently but I
really am enjoying the way
I'm doing it now like if my
body feels good I do it
like a good hard metcon if
it doesn't I do
bodybuilding and that way
I'm still moving but it's
um but it's it's something
that I enjoy when I'm when
I'm not feeling great um
so that's kind of been my approach.
Are you going to do the gym
or have you been, um, more at the garage?
So it's been more at the garage,
but I have gone back to the
gym a little bit more.
Um, uh,
because Julie has been working from
home more cause she's
getting closer to her surgery.
Her knee pain is getting greater.
Um, so she, so we,
the car is at the house more, but, um,
but yeah.
Cool.
But then there's going to be
her going through the
surgery and me doing all that stuff,
which is going to, yeah.
So I've got two propane
heaters now for the garage as we hit,
go into winter.
So yeah.
So yeah,
but everything's going well that way.
One more thing I want to
talk about before we get into CrossFit,
though,
is an EA Sports announced
announced that their NHL
twenty five game is going
to include the women's
league players as a
selection or their teams as
selection to play with on the game.
And I texted Carolyn
immediately because she
just retired or we'd be
able to play as Carolyn
Prevost on this game.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
No,
I'm happy for all my friends and ex
teammates.
That's really cool.
Good addition.
I felt like they did it with
the basketball.
It's nice to see that the
hockey's following suit and
that just more representation,
more cool opportunities
like this for the female
side of the sport.
It's great.
I also noticed that ESPN
shows the pro lacrosse
league and they are adding
a female pro lacrosse
league in twenty five as well.
And ESPN is going to show that as well.
Women's sports is taking
huge leaps in the last
eighteen to twenty four months.
well,
we're actually showcasing it versus
before we were barely seeing it.
But once they started
showcasing it and you start
to follow the athletes and everything,
people have become real
fans of the sports, which is awesome.
I think the video game step is huge.
If little girls can play as
pro basketball players and
pro hockey players,
that's just going to
incentivize them even more
to jump into those sports.
yeah so I think that's
that's awesome so um we'll
get into the crossfit stuff
uh I want to start off with
tomorrow will be the final
episode of all access
behind the scenes at the
crossfit games masters
edition um I'm a little sad
this week has been the
hardest week of my of
putting this together it is
the longest episode yet
And I think because I was by
myself on Sunday,
Ellie had to do some other
things and I didn't know
how much she was getting each day.
So I just was like trying to
make sure I had enough
footage and I had so much
even cutting it down.
I have fifty five minutes of an episode.
Wow.
So so tomorrow we are starting at noon.
um to give a full like lunch
hour noon to to one o'clock
um for that it's already
set up in the system to go
tomorrow at noon uh but I
actually have two trailers
for you tonight uh one is a
typical trailer and then
there's one story that was
so cool I wanted to pull it
out and uh kind of
highlight it so what I'm
going to do is go ahead and
play those for you uh here
is the first one
Just typical training, just typical clip,
and we'll talk about it after.
Here we go.
Good.
Last day, best day.
Ready to carry this last one?
I am.
I'm excited for this one.
This is going to be a fun one.
It's the end of it.
Got to go strong.
Can't hold back.
Hard today because you're
sore or good because you
see the light at the end of the tunnel?
Sore.
Sore.
What's the light at the end of the tunnel?
Eight minutes.
Last day, you still on the hunt?
Still on the hunt.
You said this was not anticipated,
but enjoying the ride?
Oh my god, it's not what I expected,
but yeah, it's been fun.
We do wrap-up shows every night,
and I read your name off as
one of the leaders.
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Have you had fun this weekend?
Oh, it's been great.
It's such an amazing experience.
Yeah, it's my first time,
so I've been trying to get
here for a long time.
It's so much fun to be back
out with all my friends and
seeing people that I
competed with so many years
ago and meeting new people.
I just think it's so inspiring.
The individuals are inspiring,
but to see Masters athletes
just doing unbelievable things.
I don't want to say at our age,
but that it can continue.
It doesn't deteriorate.
Tired.
Having fun this weekend?
Absolutely.
Having a blast.
What's been the best part of
this weekend so far?
Camaraderie.
Seeing old friends.
It's a competition.
We're here to do a job.
We've worked hard.
Worked all year for it.
It's been a long season, too.
That's the other thing.
But to get here and see
familiar faces and find friendships again,
it's been a blast.
problem between both I'm
trying to use my legs that
like so even though the
body speed up still do that
and focus on and mechanics
yeah consistency like try
to be efficient it will
help for as much as they
can at this point I'll do
four four you watch how
slow it is it's like just do three three
Get a big lead and just chillin'?
No, I wanna try and win it.
I'm gonna try and do it unbroken.
Brandon told me I could
probably try to do that, so I'm gonna,
per his advice, try to go unbroken.
So that is the trailer for
the final episode.
The workout was bar
muscle-ups and single arm
dumbbell thrusters.
For the older age groups,
they actually scaled them
back to chest-to-bar
pull-ups and they complained.
And if you've been watching other episodes,
they talk about that a
little bit and they
actually modified it so
that the last round of
chest-to-bar got moved back
up to bar muscle-ups.
So if you had them,
you got to show them off.
And it was watching the
older age groups hit bar
muscle ups at the end of
the weekend was one of the
coolest things I watched all weekend.
And a lot of them talk about it.
I like that version,
adding in handstand walk
for the last round or
adding in the bar muscle
for the last round.
I like that better.
Just lets the people shine
that have those particular skills.
yeah yeah um crossfit said
that's some great video
with solid royalty-free
music and some sea kips uh
yeah uh yeah I I dive into
royalty-free music so much
during doing this uh but
it's this has been really
good uh lynn says my chest
of our pull-ups don't even look like that
So with that,
there was also another story.
I've gotten to know Shanna
Bunce since Legends last
year as she won Legends and
we interviewed all the winners last year.
And afterwards,
she was talking about a new goal she had.
And so I'm just going to
play this real quick.
And this is just a small
snippet of what you're
going to see in the final episode.
But I wanted to highlight
her and what she's doing.
So what is your goal to set
the world record in pole vaulting?
Yeah, I guess since you're here and you're,
yes.
My goal next year is I'm
gonna try pole vaulting and
I'm going to go for the
world record in my age
group which is ten feet three inches.
And how many times have you pole vaulted?
Never.
So this is going to be very
interesting because I've never done it.
I don't know if I can do it.
Wow.
And I thought she was joking around.
When, when I recorded it and she goes in,
like I said,
this is a very small snippet
of our conversation.
And then I was following her on Instagram.
She is really going after it.
And you'll see,
I grabbed a bunch of her
Instagram posts showing her
progress and where she is today.
So you'll have to check that out.
And of course I put,
I buried that at the end of
the documentary.
So you have to watch the
whole thing to see it.
That is crazy.
Props to her.
She needs to reach out to
Danielle Brandon and get some tips.
Yeah.
Yeah,
so I don't want to give too much away,
but a coach actually reached out to her.
Oh, okay.
Because she's a taller athlete,
if you've never met Shanna.
She's a very tall athlete.
And a coach reached out to
her and said she has the
perfect body type to be a pole vaulter.
And that's what put this
earworm into her brain.
And now she's really going to go for it.
It's a very difficult sport.
Yeah.
It requires a lot of speed, precision,
flexibility.
That's cool.
Strength.
We'll be rooting for her.
It sounds like saying
underwater basket weaving world record.
Yeah.
And until you realize it's a,
it's a real idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's when she was saying it, I was like,
wait,
I didn't have my camera on record
and I turned around and I'm like,
I hit record as you said this.
And she's like, yeah, I,
that's what I'm doing.
And then we have a nice
conversation about it.
Yeah.
It's pretty cool.
You know,
when the championship is or like where,
where she does it at,
can she do it at any meet?
Yeah.
I don't think she had a meat
in mind for this.
It was just, let's go through the steps,
see where I'm at, see where I get to.
And can I actually pull it off?
But what you'll see tomorrow is she's,
she's much further along
than I thought she would be
at this point.
So cool.
When does she try it?
She didn't never said when
she was going to try it.
She said just in the course
of twenty twenty five.
Yeah.
Cool.
So.
Yeah, it's going to be cool.
And I'll continue to follow.
We'll keep updating on this
show as she goes forward as
to where she gets to on that.
But you'll have to check it out for sure.
That's awesome.
So now that that's all out of the way, um,
our very own Carolyn
Prevost was over in
Scotland and she got to do
a lot of things while she was there.
Um, how did the trip go overall?
Did you just visiting Scotland?
What was that like?
It was cool.
We didn't get too much time
to tour because we were
obviously wanting to watch
the CrossFit competition.
It's not like I was going to
go to Scotland and not be
at the CrossFit competition
the whole day.
So we had one day where we went downtown.
We walked around.
I mean, there's castles everywhere.
We didn't get to go to the
castles that were about a half hour,
the competition itself.
I mean,
I got to test the dual the
Wednesday when I got there.
So Lex and I both got in the
Wednesday and then we were
just heading to the hotel
gym to do a workout.
And I get a text from Katie.
It's like, when have you landed?
And what are your plans basically?
And I was like, well,
I was just about to go do a workout.
She's like, can you come and
test something for me and I
was like sure so we did a
small workout at the hotel
gym and then I left Lex at
the hotel and went to go
test the dual just for like
transition wise and
everything we made a small
adjustment to the original
workout on the power stairs
and then yeah I mean that
one was fun to do so then
you were asked to be on the
desk of the tailgate party
which was awesome.
Were you surprised you got on so early?
Because you were one of the
first people on the desk.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, right?
Like I'm there.
So I don't know who had been
before me or who's coming after me.
I got an email saying that
they had a couple of slots
that they were looking to put me in.
And then as I,
arrived there the one day I
was doing the burpee
challenge and then someone
didn't show up for their
slot so then I filled in um
another time I think I was
on the desk maybe three
three times three or four
times and then the burpee
challenge which in my
opinion was good enough for
your um for my bet against
you it was my I'll take
that under consideration
Okay, great.
But no, the rest of the weekend,
I got to sit in the box, like the suite,
along with a lot of the
legends athletes that were there.
Caught up with a lot of
those athletes and enjoyed
the competition.
Met some of the sponsors.
Did some shopping around.
Got the newer version of the Crocs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So,
was their setup as professional as ours?
For the broadcast?
It was on par, on par.
On par.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Did you have fun doing the tailgate show?
Because it looked like, well, one,
it looked like you had fun,
but it also looked like you
were the one that had to
keep the train on the tracks.
maybe it's cause like,
I'm such a fan of the sports.
So like, as they're,
they get talking sometimes,
like I'm always just like
watching the race.
Cause it's just like,
I feel like I I'm still
involved in the sport and, you know,
competing and, and, you know,
watching my competitors and
stuff like that.
So like,
I'd be like talking and joking around,
but like seriously,
like trying to at least pay
attention to what was happening.
Um, so yeah,
maybe I would bring it back to the,
to the race sometimes.
Um,
And you have like a TV in front of you,
like a monitor with the, with the race
Yeah, there was like three smaller TVs.
I didn't have my glasses,
but they were like,
I couldn't see like the leader sometimes,
like if there was written small on the TV,
but then there was a big TV
right behind where, um,
like if I was looking at, um, at Pat,
then the huge TV was in the back.
So when I'd be like looking at him talking,
I could see way better.
Um,
like actually the positions of the
athletes and everything like that.
Um, yeah.
So we, I mean,
you weren't missing the action.
Well,
the smaller TVs explains a lot
because many of the
athletes that were on the
tailgate were like,
I don't... Who's that in first?
Who's that?
So it wasn't just you.
It was... Yeah,
you had the big screen TV
that was on the right side of the desk.
That's the one that you
could really see everything.
And then, yeah,
the TVs that were in front of us,
you could see the leaders.
I could mostly tell...
like when they're showing
the athlete itself like I
know what their body looks
like and how they move but
it was like if you on the
left side the flags and and
the leaders or the scores
of where they were at it
was a little bit too small
from the desk to actually
see the order of the rest
of the field so I would
often glance over at pat
just to see the the real the real race
So my last question about
the desk is Sunday morning,
they had some scotch
whiskey on the desk that it
appeared that some of the
people started
participating in early in the day.
And the show got really loose at times,
which I found amusing and enjoyable.
Is that is that factual?
uh I think a little bit they
also had food at one point
when I when I got there
there was like fish and
chip and a bunch of other
things that was on the desk
I guess and yeah um so then
there was this plate of
chocolate and I was getting
hungry and I was like oh I
want this chocolate right
now it's some european
chocolate I didn't know it
was whiskey chocolate so I
had this whiskey chocolate
and I was like ugh it was
not what I was expecting to bite into
But then they also had, yeah,
the scotch on the table.
I didn't have a drink of that one.
I'm not a whiskey drinker.
I'm not really a drinker anyways,
but definitely not whiskey.
Yeah,
I got to witness you trying the
chocolate.
It was pretty funny.
Yeah, that was not my favorite.
Yeah.
So the competition overall,
you got to witness that.
You got to watch.
What was that like,
getting to watch that live?
It was awesome.
I mean,
it was completely different than Texas.
I think the fact that when
Texas was in a baseball field,
like baseball fields are so
big in terms of the seating.
Like there was so much
seating at Round Rock.
that it made it seem like empty,
even though they could have
had as many fans as, um, Aberdeen.
Like it was just hard to tell.
Like it just looked like it was, you know,
in certain sections was busy.
Um, I felt like the fans were great.
They showed up to each, each event,
including the strong man.
Like it wasn't just a small
group watching a strong man
and then they would leave.
Like it,
it felt like every event was
getting watched.
Um,
the between the events the
one I forget what her name
is she has an accent she
was keeping the crowd going
like there were some
drinking competitions there
was some kiss cam there was
dance cams there was all
kinds of stuff between I
thought she did a good job
of just kind of keeping the
flow between between the events um
the actual field of play looked great.
I thought the turf was a great addition,
um, to, uh,
just to the indoor venue that
you don't see that.
So it's still brought a Lauren Smith.
Yeah, that's right.
That's her name.
Um, yeah, the Simba camp, uh, they, uh,
That turf feeling just like
brings that outdoor that
they couldn't really do inside.
So I really liked the
addition of the turf there.
It looked clean.
It was pretty dark where the fans were.
So like it just kept the
spotlight onto the floor, which is cool.
I like that.
Um, the events itself, uh, there were some,
some great, great races like the,
the Ricky Gerard, uh,
just edging out Jeff Adler
in that first event was
exciting to watch.
You know what, for,
for a first event where normally like,
I don't care to watch a
long run when they were
coming in and out and then
trying to figure out which
sandbag to get.
I actually really liked
watching that event.
Probably one of my favorite
ones of the weekend to watch.
Um,
I actually, from a broadcast perspective,
I thought it was fun to
watch too because they had
good cameras outside to get
that quick loop.
And it wasn't like too long
of a run where it,
and they did a good job of
not just watching the leaders.
They had like a camera in the middle.
So you'd see some people
coming out as others are going down.
And I thought that was good.
Too many times we only get
to see the leader of a run race.
Yep.
Yes, I thought that was good.
Some of the events,
I was surprised in some of the, I guess,
performances, I should say.
Maybe I expected more of
them in comparison to myself.
Sometimes, like even the Snatch one,
there was a lot more that
were stuck on the Snatch
than I anticipated.
Um, cause they all broke up.
They all broke up the ring muscle ups,
I think, except for one person.
So like I was expecting,
if you're breaking up,
the ring was at muscle up,
especially as a male,
I didn't expect them to be
struggling on the snatches
as much as they were,
but they were short bars.
on turf and that can play a
factor as well.
I tested with the short bar as well.
Um,
when I did mine and it just makes it
seem heavier, of course,
but I didn't think that
they would struggle as much.
Um, so I don't know,
like Haley Adams was one of
the slowest ones to the, to the snatch.
She did,
she did like three or four sets on
the ring muscle ups and she
was probably the fastest
one on the snatch and got like,
top five in that workout.
Like, yeah, she did really well.
It didn't have to be as much
about the snatch.
If I think if they broke up
their rings a little tiny bit more,
they could have cycled
through that snatch a
little bit better and then
actually had a foot race on the shuttles.
Is it appropriate to be
sneaky like that in developing it?
Was it meant to be sneaky?
Like that really,
you don't want to tire
yourself out on the mob,
on the muscle ups, because if you do,
it's going to cost you on the snatches.
Yeah.
If you go too hard on the ring, muscle ups,
your shoulders,
those first couple of reps are tough.
Yeah.
So it's just like,
it's really just the pacing
and then it's finding the
right pace where you can move the bar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We talked about it on the
wrap up show that it really
became a snatch workout.
If you could get through them smooth, you,
you were going to do well.
Yeah.
I mean, if you look like G out there,
like you're, you're golden, um, although
Dallin did beat him in the second heat,
but, um, yeah, if you could,
if you could move through it,
like at a moderate pace, but again,
if you were smarter on the
ring muscle ups, like I bet you,
that's the type of workout
that if you release early
and the athletes get to actually test it,
it would have been a
different workout with a
different strategy and
actually finding the pace
that you can hold in the
bike on the ring muscle ups
to move the snatch at a,
at a good rhythm.
Um,
What else was the third event?
The brave heart one.
I liked that one.
I thought that was, uh, I liked the,
the double handstand pushup
that definitely makes your
shoulders a lot more tired.
Um,
That's a movement we hadn't
seen officially in a bigger
CrossFit competition as far as I know.
I want to ask you a question
about that because, again,
Laura finishes towards the
bottom in a strict
handstand push-up workout.
You have told us on this
show that you're not a great swimmer,
but you're not willing to
invest extra time in that
because how much better are
you going to get in that one event?
And is it enough that it's
going to make a difference
in the overall weekend?
Is it worth the others maybe
falling back a little bit?
do you think that that's
where Laura is now?
Like it's just her whole,
it's always going to be her whole,
but to the amount of time
it would take to get better at that would,
would take away from her
other things that she's
somewhat dominant in.
I don't think so.
I think just like structurally,
maybe she's got like longer
arms that just make it harder to,
to press.
Like you have to like, she's,
she's competing.
It's a top girls in the
world that are so good at
that movement as well.
Um, I,
I thought she was going to be a
little bit better on the flat surface.
I did think like I was
expecting a little bit more.
Um,
but then like everyone's just so good
at them that even if she gets better,
it's just so hard to be
competitive when you're
talking about the elites of the elite.
Um,
Yeah, I mean,
it was a good thing for her
that it's paired with a back squat,
which slowed down some people.
Like, I have long arms, so, like,
I'm a slow handstand push-up person.
Like, I'm short,
but I actually probably
have longer arms than most
people on the field,
which is why I can deadlift.
So, like,
I don't know if just structurally
it's just something that's hard to fix.
Like, any type of strict movement,
it takes a lot of work to
get better at any type of
strict movement.
I think the last thing I
want to ask you about, Rogue,
because we've talked about it a lot.
You've been in the chat a
little bit with us in the wrap-up shows.
There's been this stink all
week about what Laura said
about the European crowd
being better than the U.S.
crowd.
And I thought you made a great point.
The baseball stadium is not
conducive to like have a
great loud crowd because it
spreads out wide as you go
down the baselines.
So you're much further away
from the field of play than
you were in this nice small arena.
And I said over and over
again on the wrap-up shows,
that's what CrossFit needs to look for.
These smaller arenas that
you can fill up and make
more interesting as a viewer.
Do you think that the crowd
was that much different than the U.S.?
I mean,
I haven't seen many sold-out crowds
in the U.S.
besides the CrossFit Games,
if I'm being honest.
And at the CrossFit Games,
you have people traveling from all over,
but semifinals is...
hasn't been as good as the European,
as the Australian semifinals.
But I don't think there's
anything wrong with her comment.
This is an athlete that is from Europe.
Europe has not had any major
international competition
like this where they've
been able to host.
She's proud that they finally got here.
She wants to show that like,
this is a place that they
can come to and that the
European crowd is going to
show up and it's not a
waste of an investment.
Right.
So I think that like,
I don't think anything was
necessarily directed like
negatively at like the USA crowd,
but it's more like we have
it here going on.
We've had it here going on.
You guys are finally getting to see it.
And they've been waiting
years for this to happen.
What's that?
Take her out of the equation.
The broadcast repeatedly was
talking about how it was
the best crowd they'd seen.
And us on the broadcast can't tell.
Yeah.
Right?
We have no idea.
It's just frustrating
because I think back to
semifinals in Pasadena,
which was in an abandoned
strip mall or a grocery
store with pillars in the
middle of the floor.
You couldn't even see people.
We've never in the U.S.
put it in a place that fits
what CrossFit is.
We're throwing it in the
square peg in the round hole.
for a venue.
The only thing close to it
would be Knoxville,
which is just a weird place to get to.
I mean,
I thought the crowd was great and I
liked that they stuck
around and they weren't
just there for the cross
that they were there for the strong man.
They were there for the strong woman.
Um,
yeah, it was, it was a great,
it was a great place.
And, um,
I wouldn't be surprised to see it
go back there again, another year.
The only thing is like, if you,
if you stay at the same location,
people that are like really
made that trip or like, Oh,
I made the trip.
I'm I've seen it.
I don't need to go back again,
which is why it's almost
like nice for it to go to other cities.
Although the location was
great because like there
was two hotels that were within.
Ten seconds walking of there.
Um,
So it made it easy to just
go back and forth.
I think they want to keep it
at an English-speaking
country in terms of just
facilitating for the North
American athletes.
So I think something like
Scotland or in the UK is
what you'll see probably
maybe in the next couple years.
The actual venue was beautiful.
Um, it did everything they needed to do,
but yeah, I was just,
I was just happy that
Europe finally got a chance to, to host,
um, to host an event.
Cause they've been,
they've been needing that.
I would love to see it go to
Australia at some point.
Obviously that's a huge, huge, uh,
flight for, um, many of the people,
but I mean, that crowd,
that crowd's always crazy.
And eventually like South America,
like when I went to compete in Brazil,
the one year for sanctionals,
it was crazy over there.
So I don't want to sound like sour grapes.
I just think that for the
first time in a long time,
a CrossFit competition was right sized.
Like the venue was the right
size for the competition.
And I don't think we've done
a very good job of that at
all in this country.
And it's because I think
we've also had the games.
So people often are like, oh,
let me skip the semifinal
so I can go to the games.
You know,
and we've had those major
competitions forever.
So people always have
something else that they can go to.
The options have just been
way bigger in North America.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
I heard John Woolley say one time
that CrossFit should look
at high school football stadiums,
that that is the right size
for a CrossFit competition.
And I think that the CrossFit Games,
had it not had the tragedy last year,
the event in the football
stadium was awesome.
and and packed like I think
that makes sense like that
I think we're just um we're
not right sizing the venue
and and kudos to to rogue
for doing that because I do
think this was right sized
and it had a cool effect
because of it and it was
awesome to watch and
awesome to look at wasn't
rogue at in columbus wasn't
that like packed it was yeah it was
but it was inside the factory.
Like I don't, it,
it was probably even small.
It was,
it was probably half the size
indoors as this venue,
but they also had an
outdoor venue that was packed as well.
Right.
So, um,
that was one of my favorite
competitions to ever attend.
Like there wasn't a bad seat
in the house at either location either.
Yeah, no, I mean, I love the competition.
I think there's a couple
workouts I would have liked
to have seen the time cap
one minute extra that second day.
Obviously, the duel was...
sad for, you know,
just heartbreaking for those athletes.
Because those top three on
the female side were putting on a show.
Like there was such a big
gap between those three and
the rest of the field.
I still think Laura would
have pulled away from Gabby
with those events that were left,
but it was exciting to see those battles.
I think this was the best
competition I've seen Laura look.
Tia doesn't lose very often,
and to lose four events in a row to Laura,
it was like, whoa.
I didn't even care about the overall score,
just all the ones on, for one,
all the ones on the other one.
It was like the last event.
We knew Tia was going to win the overall,
but it was just like,
who's going to win five,
who's going to win five.
And the other one's going to get four.
Um,
I thought Jeff looked phenomenal as you
know,
we didn't get to see him at the games.
He looked great.
Um,
popular had a great competition on the
men's side.
There was a few people
fighting for that third place.
Brent obviously looked, um, great,
happy for him to finish off
his career that way.
Um, happy for Ariel to get on that podium.
There was a lot of great stories.
Um,
Yeah,
mostly just that second day was a
tough day.
It rebounded back on the third day,
but the two workouts with a
lot of the time caps
followed by the duel that
had the two incidents,
that one was a more difficult day.
Do you have thoughts on
rebounding and whether that
should be allowed or not?
I mean,
I come from so many sports background.
I bound all the time in training.
If you watch any of my training videos,
like I'm constantly doing it.
Um,
I like bounding.
I think it's like Danielle
is the most athletic one in that field.
She would have been heads
like way ahead of everyone
had she bounded or not bounded.
She's always been good at
burpee box jump overs and
get overs and stuff like that.
And then it just made it look even faster,
obviously, when she was bounding.
I don't think you needed to
bounce or to bound to win that event,
though.
It definitely helped to get
a little bit of a lead,
but you didn't need to
bound to get a really fast score.
I heard an interesting take
on Around the Whiteboard,
and it was Sam Briggs' coach.
Why is his name escaping me right now?
he was saying that there are
that you should be you need
to test plyometrics as part
of fitness it's like we
won't do sprinting we can't
do sprints all of a sudden
because people are going to
rip their hammies well
that's you know what speed
is a part of fitness you
got to be fast like that should be tested
there are athletes that are
springier and bouncier than others,
right?
And he goes,
I don't think this would happen to Guy.
He's just too springy and bendy.
That's just who he is, right?
But you look at Heinrich,
and he is a stiffer athlete.
And this was his opinion.
This is not mine.
He was saying that just looking at him,
he is a stiffer athlete,
and you can kind of tell.
But anyway,
it was just a really
interesting conversation.
I wonder if a lot of these
athletes don't have
sporting backgrounds anymore.
Like a lot of them don't.
They just specialize in CrossFit.
And now that we haven't had
bounding because it's all
been stepped down,
like I just wonder how much
people are actually
maintaining in their
training at some point some bounding.
Like in my opinion,
we should be able to do five reps.
I know it's from a very high surface,
but I think that people
still need to – I mean,
if it's going to happen,
it's going to happen.
People could have torn just
sprinting forward towards the sled.
You've seen people – last year,
I think it was one of the
Niners or one of the
football players was just
running from off the field to the field,
and boom, it popped.
Yep.
Like, it often happens in, like,
a rebounding change of direction, which,
you know, they had there.
But they got to support
their arms a little bit, like,
to their bound, where it wasn't as much.
Like,
you're not jumping fifty-five inches
fully down, rebounding back.
I don't know.
It's hard.
It's hard to tell no bounding ever.
There's so much bounding across it.
Where does it stop?
Or just in athleticism in general,
people will be like, oh, well,
you don't need to test
bounding to test fitness.
But it's still part of a race.
I don't know.
If people have that in their repertoire,
why are you limiting them
to being able to do that?
I didn't bound when I tested it.
but I was very fast going
over and probably as
competitive with any of those scores.
But like, I'm fast on, on, on the overs,
but like,
it didn't even occur to me to bound.
I could have,
I didn't even think about it
just cause I'm, I'm smaller,
but I don't know.
Like I just, I trained all the time.
I don't even think about it.
You're always going to have
soft tissue injuries in sports.
It's just going to happen.
You, as much as you try to prevent it,
it's always going to happen.
And at some point the
athlete has to make the decision.
It does this work for me or not.
And yeah.
But like it really started
with Daniel Brandon that was bounding,
right?
Like she's someone who is an
athlete on the field.
Like she has done a lot of sports.
She's one of the rare
athletes that we have in CrossFit.
She is.
Like there's not many pure
athletes in CrossFit.
She's one of them.
So when you take a movement
that's already good for her
and then she bounds and
looks and makes everyone
look like turtles out there,
people are going to be like,
I got to do that, too.
But even if they did do that,
they're still not.
They still weren't even
close to Daniel Brandon.
She was still so much faster
because she's she's springy.
So I can relate.
She would lose.
She would lose it on this on the sled.
The comment I can relate to
the most is when I played
college basketball, I had a huge vertical,
but in my old age, I'll be stepping down.
That's Larry young.
Yeah.
I mean, I think,
I don't think the masters
need to like pass a certain point,
but at the same, at the same time,
don't tell me how to race.
If you have it in you, like it's going to,
I don't know if it's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
That is my opinion.
It sucks.
And I don't know if there
was a previous injury to
Gabby's calf that people talked about.
I don't know whether that's true or not.
It's horrible what happened.
Obviously, with two happening, you're like,
was it badly programmed?
Or was it just... Two people
tearing Achilles.
It happens when it's going to happen.
Yeah, it's just sad, but...
And the other thing is, Carolyn,
you know the risk-reward, right?
If you're going to bound and that pops,
you know it's eight months.
Probably less than that, but yeah.
Yeah, I'm just going by Chelsea Nicholas,
who just went through the recovery.
And yeah, you can come back in a year,
but it's not right for eight months.
Yeah.
So, but anyway.
But it could have happened
even in the burpee overs.
Even in the burpees,
as they land and come back,
it could have literally
happened there with how
fast they were going.
You're coming down from a high... Again,
I train...
all the time,
like my whole life weighted
depth drops where you just, you know,
you depth drop and then you
explode from there,
like from different heights.
It's like,
I don't know what type of
background training people
have to really like solidify more,
I guess your Achilles, but if it's,
but some of the best
athletes can tear it too.
Like it's just, it's meant to go.
Sometimes it's meant to go.
So I want to address this from CrossFat.
I think losing players to
injuries for a long term is still bad.
Like, we may not get that Gabby again.
I don't think that is the case.
With the way medical...
medical technology is today,
recovering from an Achilles
tendon should actually make
you stronger afterwards.
Because over time,
your Achilles tendon stretches.
This actually tightens it
back up and makes it new.
And once you're past eighteen months,
it is as secure as a brand new Achilles.
But even in the step down,
like William Leahy, you know,
the step down,
he would step down and just kind of
it's still type of,
it's still a kind of
bounding and he tore it
there and people will say, Oh,
well he was jumping from the rope.
I mean,
he didn't do it when he jumped from
the rope.
He did it with his little box movement,
not from the rope,
like stuff just happens.
And he comes and he's a
great athlete and he was
great explosive power, um,
basketball player.
It's like, it just,
so where does it stop I
think I'm going to say it
again um if you go to three
two one md dot com uh that
is sean rocket he is the uh
medical person for the
crossfit games he actually
did an episode on how
achilles ruptures happen um
and he actually was in the
chat with some of the stuff
that happened at rogue and
talked about it a lot of it
is to do with your foot angle
when you land.
But he actually walks
through it step by step.
And if you want to know more about this,
it's a great resource to go
check out for this because
he is an orthopedic surgeon
and has probably repaired
Achilles in the past.
So with that.
So there was that.
And the other thing,
my only other complaint with the dual,
my bigger complaint with
the dual was the wait time.
And I love the format of the duel.
I love the head-to-heads almost,
like five people heats.
I think that's awesome.
But the wait times for a
thirty-five second event
are just getting to be too big.
It was better this year than last year.
But I think that if you're
going to continue to do these,
we've got to find a way to
shrink that down.
And I know there's appeals
and I know there's all that stuff.
But I think that is the
thing that needs fixed the most.
I thought they were faster
this year between each, not,
not between like the fit,
but like going through the actual heats,
if that makes sense, like of that round,
that was much faster than,
cause in the past year it was,
it was not only slow at, at between the.
But it was also slow between those.
So those were good.
Um, yeah, still a little bit long between.
I get, they want recovery time.
Um,
and they don't want to smash the
athletes as well.
That's one thing is like, they,
they don't want the
athletes that are moving on
to be at such a
disadvantage for the weekend.
To keep going.
I think they could get rid
of that round of fifteen.
I think you can go from twenty to ten.
At least twenty to ten.
And then maybe if you want
to go five to get rid of at
least one round.
Um, yeah.
I think it would be, I mean,
it wouldn't be called the dual,
but I still think the
twenty ten five would be just enough.
Just long enough right there
where you're not crushing them.
Volume wise for making it further,
it's still exciting.
They get three times to come back through.
I think that's the that would be,
in my opinion, the winning recipe.
that event was fun to do
that was my favorite one to
test yeah I could see that
yeah I would like that as
well um any other final
thoughts from either of you
from rogue that you thought
about in the past week um
and again like I just want
to make it clear I'm not
dogging on european um
crowds I'm just I don't
think we in the us have
done a very good job
either marketing or right sizing events.
Yeah.
I mean,
I just want to say thank you to
Katie and Bill for
continuing to put this on for,
for the athletes.
And, um, I mean, even like,
they're always up for feedback as well.
Like they're,
they're open to feedback on everything.
They,
The fact that they even
changed the workout middle
of the competition is great as well.
You don't see that very often.
but yeah, to provide the app,
the athletes with hotels and, um,
their flights covered where
athletes can just go out
there and compete and not
just the CrossFitters, but the strong man,
having the strong woman
there was a huge addition.
Um,
I didn't know any of them really before.
I think I knew one of the
Canadian girls and
obviously some of the men, but, um,
Yeah, it was different to follow them.
I think a field of ten,
you got to see a lot.
You got to see those
athletes and kind of get to
know them throughout the
competition because it was a small field.
So I thought that was cool
that they got paid the exact same.
And I think that's a great
platform that Rogue
provided them that weekend.
So super happy for them and
happy that the athletes got
to have a great competition.
Question from Justin Sun.
Are you competing in twenty twenty five,
Carolyn?
Like the game season or just
like in general?
Yeah, yeah,
I'm competing Masters and Indy.
I get I get two routes.
Lex says they take care of
everything for the athletes.
And the legends, too.
The athletes are very relaxed,
seem to be having a good time.
I think, one,
it was good for the sport to
just have a clean slate.
They also had a great video
tribute to Lazar before the
competition started.
I don't know if you guys saw
it on the stream.
Yeah.
Or not.
Yeah.
It was much better than the games.
So, I mean,
that was much better than the games.
And I thought that that was
a nice addition to start the weekend off,
you know, giving,
giving space for people to, you know,
rethink about what happened and yeah,
for Lazar.
And Justin came back in game season.
Whatever that looks like.
We should know soon.
Will we?
Who knows?
The PFAA this week held
board elections for their athlete board.
The people that were up for
either a yes or no vote
were Christina Leviticus.
Danielle Brandon, Jake Douglas,
Yella Hosta, Patrick Vellner,
and Victoria Campos.
And I think they have until
the end of this week, maybe,
or sometime midweek this
week to get your votes in.
And they've been doing a
pretty good job of putting
out material of how their voting works.
They put out an Instagram post.
I'll share it real quick, just showing.
This is their.
How their board gets elected.
There's eligible voting members.
Eligible voting members are invited.
Then those voting members
accept the invitation.
And then they elect the board of directors,
which is the athlete board.
And those are the candidates
that I just listed off.
The athlete board make the
decisions to advance the
PFA's mission and goals.
And then the athlete board
selects an executive
committee to run the
day-to-day operations.
And that executive committee
executes and facilitates
communication to the voting members.
So they're doing a lot of
things like this to kind of
explain their makeup,
which I think is a good
first step in helping us
understand how they
represent the athletes.
Yeah,
I've said that for a couple weeks now.
I don't like that they don't include teams,
masters,
and semifinal athletes who are
also affected by all of this stuff.
But I was told in the chat a
couple weeks ago that those
are in the future plans,
but they wanted to start small,
get their feet wet, and then expand.
so hopefully that is true
and we will see that in the
future um lex says there
should be at least one or
two for masters and team I
do not disagree with you
because they're at the same
competitions sometimes uh
and their safety concerns
and competitive balance
issues are the exact same
as the elite athletes
And there's, I would,
I would argue that there's
sometimes even more safety
concerns at the master's
division than there would
be at the elite individual,
especially at like the games.
Like some of,
some of the programming I've
seen in the past for
master's division inside their gym,
where they don't have
access to certain mats when
they're falling from the rope,
doing leg lifts at certain age.
I'm like, Hmm.
Or certain movements.
Like,
It would be nice for them to
be represented, um, and you know,
start thinking about additions for,
for those divisions and
maybe what the standards should be.
And what about synchro rope
climbs or worm work or that
are all add dangers to things?
Vice says,
from someone who helped form a
union at my job,
it makes sense to start
small and get on your feet
before you include all
groups and positions.
That's what worked in my
experience anyway.
At this point,
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt,
and hopefully we'll see
expansion in the future.
And she said we expanded to
include more positions each
year as we got more experience.
So, okay, cool.
Um,
Emma Lawson announced that she is back
to training CrossFit.
Uh,
she did that on Tik TOK and me as a
fifty four year old man, um,
had to do some digging to find that,
but I did.
Um,
So I actually I do have a
tick tock account where I
put stuff up but here she
is I'm going to go ahead
and play her announcement
she actually has like three
or four more videos it
looks like she's kind of
logging this every day on tick tock.
It's a big day.
I'm going back to the CrossFit gym today.
It's been about three months
since I've done CrossFit.
I just really needed to take
a physical break,
mostly a mental break from
training that way.
I'm feeling like I'm ready to go.
Really nervous.
I feel like it was really
necessary for me to take that time off.
You probably saw because I
was posting some.
I did like a lot of Pilates.
I was running a lot more.
I was doing some biking and
just kind of like whatever I felt like.
I was doing some other types
of work like classes.
And I feel like that was
just a really good reset for me.
I'm excited to try and get back.
Today I'm doing more of like slow work.
I'm doing my slaps, bar my slaps,
doing my fingers crossed.
It's been a hot minute so
we'll see how it goes.
I think it's really
necessary when you're
getting to a point of it's
not fun anymore or you're
just really struggling
through it and you're not
enjoying it anymore and
maybe you're noticing
you're doing it for the
wrong reasons it's really
important to recognize that
and it took me a long time
to be able to actually
recognize that but
recognizing it is the start
and then kind of doing
something about that so for
me that was taking a little
bit of a step back so that
I can try and find the joy
for it again because I
really do love doing
crossfit I love competing I
love pushing myself in that
way and just the variety of
movements that we get to do
So that is about half of it.
She goes on and there's even
some parts after her
workout where she missed some muscle ups.
She says that it's a process.
But as you can see,
there's like four more videos.
And these three are all
about her training.
So go check her out on TikTok.
It looks like she's going to
daily blog this thing,
her comeback into it.
And hopefully she does find
the joy because she is so uber talented.
Yeah, I mean, she started CrossFit,
I think, when she was, like,
seven or something years old.
And I think she's done
CrossFit longer than I have,
which is crazy.
So I think it's good that she finally,
you know,
recognized that she was probably
burnt out, didn't love it as much anymore,
and took this off-season for herself.
She did a high rock.
She did, I think,
a half marathon with Jack.
just exploring other things
before getting back into
more structured CrossFit.
And hopefully, yep.
And hopefully she, you know,
doing the Jamie training
gets back to loving it.
And if she doesn't,
then she knows that there's
other outlets out there and
ways to stay fit.
Like she's been doing the
Pilates and stuff like that.
And you don't have to do CrossFit to,
you know,
to compete and stuff like that too.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know,
in the last few years we've lost Mal,
Emma, and Emma.
Emma still has not missed a game season,
so I shouldn't even put her in there.
But Emma Carey, Mal, O'Brien,
and Haley for a minute, but she's back.
So hopefully they can find the joy again.
It looks like Emma Carey is as well.
We haven't heard from her, but, yeah,
I think this is –
I think kids should be doing
this stuff anyway.
And I think she may have
missed out on it by
starting CrossFit so young
and becoming so good so fast.
So another thing that
happened this weekend is
the Belgrade Games.
So I'm going to go ahead and
pull up their Instagram as
they announce the top three
in their divisions.
And this was Luka Jukic's
first time back in
competition since the games.
So on the men's side,
the winner was Moritz Fiebig.
Bronislaw Olinkowicz was second.
And Luka ended up coming in third.
So congratulations to those men.
I tuned in to Be Friendly's
live stream a little bit on IG.
Man, they've got the high def down.
It was really clear this weekend.
It's still tough trying to
figure out who's who with
like a single cam kind of thing, but...
I applaud them for doing
this and letting us have
the opportunity to watch more CrossFit.
At some points,
they had like eight hundred
people live on their stream.
She did a great job and they
would put the workouts at
the bottom for people to see,
which is really important.
They even had some score,
some scores go up at some
point in the one workout today.
that was like max reps in
the remaining time and stuff.
So I thought they did a great job
And shows that you can do
things at smaller scale
competitions and still get
people involved into
watching and being fans.
The reality is CrossFit is
still a grassroots thing, right?
And the stream can be grassroots.
We got spoiled with high-end
production of some of the
big events because the
owner of CrossFit wanted to
do that back in the day.
We need to do more of this,
and Brian's doing a great job.
Did you watch the finale and
their Lazar tribute and
even for the podium?
I watched a little bit of
the females I did not watch
because it was right during
the Bears game.
Yeah,
Luca was emotional on the rower
before starting.
They had an announcement for Lazar.
They put the chest piece up in lane five,
gave him a big shout out there,
and then they were beginning the workout.
And then during the closing ceremony,
they had Lazar at the
forefront of this
competition the entire weekend.
It was a competition, too.
And the last event was
called the Lazar Workout.
Yeah.
Yeah, so.
And on the women's side,
we had Mathilde Garnes,
one that Alisa Fuliano took second,
and Jacqueline Dahlstrom took third.
All names we know from the
CrossFit space as well, both sides.
So, yeah, great that they all did well.
And the first place winner
got seven thousand euros.
I don't know what that means,
but kudos to them.
There's a lot of good people that come.
Luca was wearing Lazar's
jersey from Dubai for Jackie Pro.
Yeah,
I probably would have been bawling in
my desk chair watching that.
But kudos to them.
It looked like a great competition.
The floor was awesome.
And again,
kudos to BeFriendly and their coverage.
It was awesome.
So there's that.
And then High Rocks.
There's all these people doing high rocks.
Carolyn, you did one a few weeks ago.
Lucy McGonigal and her sister did it.
Jay Crouch and Maddie Sturt did one.
Tia did one with James Newberry.
Paige Powers is doing one
while she's pregnant.
Do you think the high rocks
is just like a change of
pace for these athletes,
or do you think they're dabbling?
I just think it's a less pressured,
fun competition.
A lot of these high-level athletes,
you can't go to local comps
and just compete a lot of
times because you look like
an asshole just going to
beat up on all the locals.
So I feel like this is a
chance to just do something
different with less pressure,
and it's just fun.
It's a good workout.
Um,
I don't think any of like most of these
athletes that are dabbling
there are thinking that
they're going to be world champion in it.
It's like, it's such a,
a running specialization sport, um,
while also needing to be fit on, on,
on the stations.
But I just think we have the
background that it suits well,
and it's just part of our training and.
I think,
I just think people are just
dabbling for fun and it's like,
I just did it for fun with
my friend was not thinking
we were going for any type
of work record.
Jamie, you've actually considered it,
right?
Because there's been times
where CrossFit's getting so
heavy that you feel like
they're trying to push your
type of athlete to the side.
And you've confided in me
that high rocks actually
look like an alternative to that.
Mm-hmm.
Have you done one yet?
I have not done one.
I wanted to do Chicago this,
that was this weekend.
It's just, it's always,
it fills up and I don't
sign up soon enough.
So I don't know.
I don't even know when the
next one that's close
enough for me to do would be.
I'm laughing at this comment
that Lex wrote because I
love Barbell Spin.
He's always posting stuff.
But I remember he posted my
score with my friend who
doesn't even train at all.
And I was like, man,
people don't need to know
that I'm doing this competition.
This is not even an important competition.
He's looking up every single
person that's doing it.
It's like, okay,
people are just doing it for fun too.
Beck says, I don't know, Lex.
I bought a spectator ticket
for Tia's upcoming High
Rocks event after he posted about it.
So he sold a ticket.
At least one.
Justin Way says Vegas in February.
Road trip.
Yeah, that's not not a road trip for me.
But Vegas usually isn't
super expensive flight wise.
I know.
Yeah,
that's what that's actually what I
was thinking is cheap flights to Vegas.
Yeah.
we get we can get some
really cheap ones here in
columbus uh I'm gonna
finish up with uh and and
really the story is kind of
hidden here but ariel lowen
ended up killing taylor
yesterday morning and
winning fifteen hundred
dollars in a workout that
was uh toes fifteen toes to
bar and nine snatches I
actually thought about
jamie when this first
popped up I was so mad that
we were leaving for what
was I what was how many rounds of that
It was six-minute AMRAP.
I would like that.
What was the weight?
Eighty.
I'd like that.
So, Taylor got six plus one.
Ariel got six plus six.
Like an EMOM.
Yeah.
So, and Ariel, like,
she didn't break until round five,
I think, on the total bar.
And her transitions were
spectacular from the total
bar to the snatch.
Yeah.
But there was a woman that
called in from England, M.D.
Gooch, who I actually met at the Masters.
And she set such a blistering pace,
but her clock shut off at
the two thirty mark and she got confused.
And because she got confused,
then the guy started
yelling things at her and
made her even more confused.
Yeah,
she would have beat both of them by a
mile.
So she does always the
online competition that I was doing,
the fitness comps.
And well, I mean,
they went bankrupt and they
haven't paid us for the last comp.
That's another thing.
And they never email this,
but MD Gooch always does those.
She has great toaster bars.
That's one thing I remember from her.
I don't know about the barbell cycling,
but her toaster bars are great.
There was this one workout.
She smashed everyone on the toaster bars.
And it was like a toaster
bar and rowing workout.
But her like she was doing
fifty something on broken toaster bars.
So her toaster bar looked awesome.
But she is the only one that
didn't go singles on the snatch.
Ariel singles from the start,
from the start, just super fast,
like follow the bar down right back up.
But MD Gooch went unbroken
the first three or four rounds.
How far behind was she?
She was not behind.
She was way ahead.
And Taylor's over here.
Like she didn't even do
fifteen total bar and like
having her do extra because
he like isn't paying attention.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
At the end,
they made her do extra reps in
the middle and then went
back and watched the
recording and found out
they had screwed her over.
But she only missed out by
like two reps at the end.
And they made her do like a
bunch of extra in the middle.
And this one was for fifteen hundred?
What was that?
This was fifteen hundred.
She would have had it.
Yeah, she would have had it.
She's forty years old.
Yeah, she's a master.
She's very similar to me in
like gymnastic stuff.
She would have been Ariel too?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Yeah.
I was, I was,
I remember being very
impressed by her toast of ours.
The one time I was like, damn, I was like,
I got beat by, um, by this, like,
I didn't really know her.
I was like this master.
It's like in the, like,
I think she was in the
thirty five to thirty nine this year,
but she was like at the end of that one.
Like she was like thirty eight,
thirty nine.
I was like, damn,
I got smoked in this workout.
But my question to you,
I don't feel as bad now.
If she was about to smoke Ariel,
we're good.
We're good.
What I want to kind of talk
about is having a
forty-year-old Masters
athlete come in and do that
on a public-facing show
with a thousand people watching.
How do the Masters athletes
capitalize on that?
Because everybody's like,
Masters athletes are like second fiddle,
like double A or whatever.
And sometimes they're not.
At the end of the documentary,
and this is a spoiler for tomorrow,
so if you don't want to know,
close yours.
Mark Hutchinson looks in the
camera and goes,
let me ask you this question.
If you went head to head, who is fitter?
The game's fittest on earth
or the Masters' thirty-five
to thirty-nine fittest on earth?
He said,
I think it's a pretty damn close call.
And it's only because it's Will Morad.
And Will has competed at that level.
And Will was on fire that
weekend at Masters.
And Will's beaten James
probably many times in the past.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think this year,
but not normally in other years.
Like, I don't think who won it last year.
Sam Dancer.
I don't think he would be on the top.
He's a great athlete.
I don't think he would be in
the top ten at the Games.
Sam can't ever make it
through the games for us to know.
Yeah, healthy.
That's the problem.
Sam is a super fit dude and
super strong dude,
but he can't ever make it
through a four-day
competition for us to know
how fit he actually is.
But it was just an interesting question,
especially this year, right?
You have a new guy, James, who people...
don't think truly is the fittest on earth.
You have will, who was like on fire at the,
at the masters games.
Um, it was just an interesting,
interesting thought.
And,
and we'll put up times that would be
competitive with the elite
athletes of the world.
Well,
we'll should be at the individual
games typically.
Like he got injured this
year and wasn't able to
finish out his season.
Really like the way he wanted.
Yeah.
But with the way M.D.
Gooch competed... That would
have been cool if she beat
both of them and whooped them.
Well, the thing is,
I don't know that... She
was on way before Ariel.
So if she would have won and
defeated Taylor,
I don't know that they
would have continued and
had more people try.
So they always have in the past.
Yeah,
I mean... If one person can beat the
time even more, then they get to win it.
And maybe at that point,
Ariel would have gone a
little faster because she
would have known a
different number to beat.
So we don't know.
Yeah.
But when you watch Em before
she gets confused, like it was flawless.
And to only be a couple reps
behind with those mishaps,
it's pretty good.
So I dunno, it,
it was just a fun
conversation I thought to
have because of how well
she did and kudos,
like applause to MD Gooch to,
to do what she did.
Kudos to Ariel too, for beating Taylor,
fifteen hundred dollar paychecks.
Pretty nice.
Yup.
So yeah, it was, uh,
and she just had a good one
from rogue too.
Yeah.
looked up those payouts it's
that's not too shabby and
to have your trip paid for
yeah and the payout for
third place I don't
remember if rogue gives
money for event wins two or
like top threes I don't
remember or just event wins
uh clooney's we care about
masters athletes
Um, so anyway,
I just thought that was interesting.
Um, that's all we have for tonight.
I do want to set up
something for next week,
but first make sure you
like subscribe to the channel,
hit that notifier.
So, you know, when stuff comes out,
don't forget all access
comes out tomorrow at noon.
And, um,
and it will be fifty five minutes long.
It's an awesome episode.
I can't wait for you guys to see that.
But next week we're going to
play a game called Hall of Famer or not.
And it's set up as to get in
the Hall of Fame, you have to be special,
right?
It's not just that you're
really good at something.
You have to be the best of
the best of the best, right?
It's only like the top one
or two percent in a league
make it to the Hall of Fame.
So what I'm going to do next week is
is I'm going to put people's
picture on a document,
and I'm going to scroll up through it,
and you guys are going to see them,
and I want you to tell me
yes or no Hall of Famer.
And next week will be men,
and the following week will be women.
Okay.
Retired athletes.
The sport's so young,
it'll probably be a mix.
Yes.
As they sit today, like for an example,
Tia is still competing,
but that is a no-brainer
that she is going to be a Hall of Famer.
Right.
Right.
Are you looking for a certain amount?
Like, is it we have to name three?
Do we have to name five?
Or we just name who is?
In my head right now, it's just who is.
But I actually was thinking about,
should I put a limit on you
guys so that you don't
allow too many people in the door?
Yeah.
I think we need a limit.
I think we need a limit too.
So, uh, so yeah,
I think that'll be a fun game.
We play next week.
Um, and Kenneth is saying first ballot.
I think in your arguments, you can say,
I think they are a first ballot or, Hey,
they should probably let
some other people in first
and they'd be a second or third ballot.
Um,
your argument but I for for
this sake it's going to be
they're all up for the hall
of fame they're all on
their first ballot should
they be in or not and it'll
be men next week and then
we'll do women the
following week and as lynn
said ooh so we're gonna get
to argue that's the point
And if there's anybody that
you think should be under
consideration in the men's field,
please put that in the comments.
And I will consider that to
put together the eligibility list.
And then I will, John,
we're talking about a limit.
We'll come up with a limit.
I think five, no more than five.
I say three or five.
Well,
it depends on how many choices you have.
Because I know, like,
usually in a Hall of Fame,
it's five per year,
but the initial class gets
more because you're making
up for some time.
Five.
This is my game.
My game.
We'll see.
I'll come up with something good.
Kenneth asks,
should there be a limit to
Canadian athletes?
Lynn says, nope, no limit on Canada.
John, this is my game.
You guys have your own show.
How did Grid go?
Was that this weekend that John competed?
It was today.
There was a finale or something, right?
Did you compete, John?
How'd you do?
Yeah,
I did see he went and put out a...
The championships were today.
Okay.
But those teams already made.
I don't think John's on the
teams from right now.
I think that for the next,
the next season.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Then I'll just bring it in a
ringer for the finale.
What is this?
I don't know.
John,
make sure you have sex and pan check
on your hall of fame list.
That's all.
Uh,
they covered the championship on a spin
cast.
All right.
I'll go watch.
That's usually when I'm
getting ready for bed, I put them on.
So that's what I'll do tonight.
So with that,
get ready for your debates on
who should be in the Hall
of Fame on the men's side
of CrossFit next week.
With that,
we'll talk about it through the week.
Just so you know,
there'll be a heated debate
throughout the week as to
what the limit should be.
With that, everybody,
thank you so much for jumping on.
It's going to be a blast next week.
It's been a blast tonight.
And don't forget, all access tomorrow,
final episode, uh,
twelve noon Eastern Standard Time.
It's a fifty five minute episode,
fifty five minute long episode.
So check that out with that.
Everybody peace out.
It's been fun on Sunday, Sunday,
Sunday night CrossFit talk.